Disregarding your written comments the photos speak volume. There was also a bottle of water waiting at my seat. Could we for a second appreciate how Lufthansa describes their business class dining service: “On long-haul flights in Business Class you will experience culinary highlights on every route. 2017/02/12 for Seat 41H. Seat 18 A is a standard Economy Class seat. The center seats in this configuration face one another slightly. Totally agree. Today no one is nearly as good as Qatar Airways. “However, since Lucky has not flown LH F in a long time, he seems to have lost track of how great LH can be, at least in the nose of the plane.”. 2, They claim to be notifying in advance although they are not. Seat 23 K is a standard Economy Class seat. Not to mention the complete lack of privacy and storage – you have to awkwardly share the center surface space between you and your buddy in the other seat. Glad he’s found Delta and United…. Of course the eight across seating on British Airways and United sucks, but at least they’re trying. The tray table and the inflight entertainment monitor are installed in the armrest making the armrest immovable and slightly reducing seat width. I like LH but it is just kind of ‘blah’. Honestly? Seat 20 G is a standard Economy Class seat. However, the close proximity of the galley area might be slightly bothersome. Seat 40 H is a standard Economy Class seat. However, since Lucky has not flown LH F in a long time, he seems to have lost track of how great LH can be, at least in the nose of the plane. Given that the large gentleman in the seat in front of me was incapable of moving without leaning heavily on the seat back, I did experience some close encounters with the seat back. Seat 24 B is a standard Economy Class seat. Yes, but did they not announce that they have the intention to introduce pyjamas (together with mattress pad)? The close proximity to the galley and lavatory area might be bothersome. You always go for the boring choices. Seat 39 D is a standard Economy Class seat. A340 has 2-4-2 econ class seating vs 3-3-3. Seat 18 G is a standard Economy Class seat. Monitor is large and adjustable, seat itself is comfortable and has lots of controls. Considering how rare Q Suites are I don’t think we can even talk about them. While we do try to list all the best miles and points deals, the site does not include all card companies or credit card offers available in the marketplace. Seat 23 C is a standard Economy Class seat. Installing it on a brand new A350 is lazy and shows a complete lack of competence up and down the chain at LH. LH can’t make J *too* good because of their F product. As for LH…their business class is average. The Lufthansa Airbus A350-900 offers seats for 293 passengers in a three-class cabin. Anyway, on to the other aspects of the flight. This row (16) is located directly behind the Premium Eco. The A350-900’s that Lufthansa operate feature three classes of service onboard – Business, Premium Economy, and Economy. You were booked there…. Booked it to avoid horrifying economy seats on a new A350 for a 10.5 hour flight (MUC - YVR) Airbus A350-900 The A350 up close Airbus A350-900. Note: Please see my Advertiser Disclosure. Sadly another airline that believes it can get by when offering a sub-par experience. Seat 39 C is a standard Economy Class seat. I would have preferred their (also underwhelming) Premium Economy if I could get both seats to myself in the 2-seat window section. Seat 19 G is a standard Economy Class seat. I like the wine selection, and the food is mostly OK. Bottom line: it is not great, but if the choice is between a direct flight with Lufthansa and a different airline with a connection, I don’t find the difference in comfort so big that it makes up for the hassle of connecting. Lufthansa business class lunch — appetizer. A beautiful aircraft. Normal LH old-school seat. Seats 4A-4C are nicely located in the forward cabin. As far as design goes, I’d like to defend Ben a bit: I understand some feel offended Ben didn’t like this (laughably poor) seat, but that has nothing to do with whether it looked like a Russian brothel or not, @John. Seat 8 C is a standard Business Class seat that transforms into a fully flat bed. There was lots of choice and I am sure it would have been superior than the Western meals you ordered which looked pretty boring even on the menu, let alone on your plate! Benny…I also liked zhat you changed the reporting style to ‘scientific’. Standard new Lufthansa business class seat. … The tray table and the inflight entertainment monitor are installed in the armrest making the armrest immovable and slightly reducing seat width. Flughöhe/Max. Seat 22 D is a standard Economy Class seat. Seat 14 A is a standard Premium Economy Class seat. Live TV channels CNN, Euronews, and Sport 24 may be also be accessed free of charge via the seat back screen or on your own device by accessing the FlyNet Wi-Fi portal. Earn 60,000 bonus points | 2X points on travel and dining. Also in Business Class, Lufthansa has created the Self-Service Refreshment Center which provides passengers with access to snacks and beverages. I recently flew the SEA-FRA route, business class on the Airbus. Seat 25 D is a standard Economy Class seat. If you'd like to participate in the discussion, please adhere to our commenting guidelines. Seat 4 D is a standard Business Class seat that transforms into a fully flat bed. Lufthansa A350-900 Business Class On this aircraft, there is a total of 48 business seats, and each of them features 64” of pitch and 20” of width, LH actually has two variants of the A350-900. The close proximity to the lavatory area might be bothersome. I just flew from Washington to Munich on the A350 on Friday night. My elbow stuck out in to the aisle and was bumped heavily twice. The close proximity to the galley, lavatory, and self-service refreshment area might be bothersome. 3- They haven’t updated their meal service in a few years meaning Do&Co for BA is now way out in front. I get the feeling that BA’s Club Suite (great name) decision was at least in part driven by Lufthansa’s decision to go with a staggered product instead. The motto of the new Lufthansa Business Class restaurant service is “Exclusivity born of tradition. Well…. I find myself really liking Lufthansa food and service — not groundbreaking but consistently fresh and good. Seat 6 K is a standard Business Class seat that transforms into a fully flat bed. Seat 12 C is a a standard Premium Economy Class seat located at a bulkhead. If you’re gonna spend big money to travel business or first class – or use up a ton of points from having spent a lot of money travelling already – then you come here to hear about the type of products and services on offer. Seat 38 G is a standard Economy Class seat. thpropst. Seat 25 G is a standard Economy Class seat. Your points are on target but I can not imagine anybody not finding 2-2-2- crowded for Business. Seat 30 K is a standard Economy Class seat. Based on previous business class reviews, I have outlined what you can expect in business class on this new plane below. I understand they installed a cardboard-like divider in the central footwell, so that it‘s easier to avoid the neighbour‘s feet … I guess the A350 has this divider installed from the beginning, but I‘ve been told by my LH flying friends it dies not always prevent intrusion during night. Please note that a passenger sitting in this seat might be bumped from crew and other passengers passing from the front of the aircraft. 3, I am told this has been going on for months. The dinner menu read as follows: First warm towels were distributed, and then the meals were served, all on a single tray. Limited Time Offer: Earn 100,000 Marriott Bonvoy points | Terms Apply. Seat back recline might be limited due to the wall of the lavatory directly behind. It offers comfortable spaciousness with its wide-body and larger windows to enhance the visual experience. Especially Lufthansa with its outrageous 5* rating of nonsense. The positive comments about LH look ridiculous. – There are people who travel with a partner or a colleague or even with family who will appreciate the seat setup for it being more social Seat 26 D is a standard Economy Class seat located in the last row of the section. Thanks I found the seats comfortable with plenty of knee room while the seat in front was up. BA also have extra staff to handle latecomers – by telling them they’ve missed their flight! The close proximity to the galley and lavatory area might be bothersome. The Diamond seats don’t feel quite as exposed, by comparison. Opinions expressed here are the author's alone, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. Although it is the last row in Business Class the smaller section of Business Class seems more intimate and secluded. Seat 24 K is a standard Economy Class seat. @ Chris K — The Harbin Ice Festival has always intrigued me. Though the aircraft itself is very noisy, and the seat is pretty narrow for business class. Wow so LH still do 2-2-2 business class even on their newest aircraft??? Reminder: OMAAT comments are changing soon. There is no bulkhead in front of row 16. Lufthansa will be stationing the first ten Airbus A350-900 aircraft in Munich as of February 2017. Seat 39 A is a standard Economy Class seat. I felt the review was more than fair. So if you’re looking for reviews of bargains in economy travel – must be some other sites you can try? This review is really consistent with my experience too. The bulkhead location of this seat provides the most privacy in the Business Class section. Seat 23 A is a standard Economy Class seat. Several time and price packages are available. Seat 36 K is a standard Economy Class seat. Seriously? I can’t believe that when you are departing from Japan where the local catering is done that you don’t at least have one of the two Japanese meals (lunch or dinner) that were offered on your flight. Seat 22 E is a standard Economy Class seat. Seriously, normal people dont care if you have THAT much privacy or your feet are only divided by a small plastic shield or they serve a decent enough sparkling wine instead of some twenty year old Champagne that 90% of the cabin couldnt tell apart from a $3 a bottle one way or another. Seat 24 D is a standard Economy Class seat. The tray table and the inflight entertainment monitor are installed in the armrest making the armrest immovable and slightly reducing seat width. Seat 36 D is a standard Economy Class seat. Seat 37 E is a standard Economy Class seat. Seat 26 C is a standard Economy Class seat located in the last row of the section. Air France has new business class seats throughout a majority of their long haul fleet, and British Airways is at least trying. Seat 29 C is a standard Economy Class seat. However, economy was way oversold, so they ended up having to upgrade people to premium economy, and then also to business class. Seat 33 J is a standard Economy Class seat. “than some flying carpet from the Middle East.”. The service tends to be good in my experience, they are particularly good with drink refills. Startgewicht/Max. Only downside is seat could be a little wider but more than compensated elsewhere. Seat 29 H is a standard Economy Class seat. Seat 33 H is a standard Economy Class seat. Airbus A350-900. The service and food are standard LH (not great, not awful) but the cabin feels intimate and although there is no privacy between seats (2-2) it also isn’t cramped (I’m 6’3). Among long-haul airlines, China Eastern is perhaps the only one with a genuine F product on its A350, as Malaysia rebranded its A350 F product as a Business Suite. – There are people, probably one third of the flying population, that doesnt like flying and who would rather take a flight in an airline they know and trust than some flying carpet from the Middle East. (Some of the best food flying) Seat 26 E is a standard Economy Class seat located in the last row of the section. Seat 8 G is a standard Business Class seat that transforms into a fully flat bed. Lufthansa’s seat has the advantage of having a lot of space in the footwell vertically, which is good. LH and NH (as well as LX and OS) have a JV on Europe-Japan routes, so they aren’t actually “competing.”. Try to be a bit more adventurous if you can as we would very much appreciate it. About 90 minutes before landing the cabin lights were turned on in preparation for the pre-landing service. Lufthansa is not a 5 star even though a very subjective company says they are. It’s not a pj, they normally offer you a blue Van Laack long sleeve v-neck shirt. Full meal and beverage service is available on Lufthansa's long-haul flights. Seat back recline might be limited. Haneda Airport has so many cool planes, though due to the design of the windows it’s hard to get good pictures of them, which sure is a bummer as an avgeek. Additional information about onboard entertainment may be accessed by clicking here. In addition to LifeMiles frequently selling miles at a discount, the program is also transfer partners with Amex Membership Rewards, Citi ThankYou, and Capital One. Seat 18 E is a standard Economy Class seat. Thank you for your review Seat 25 A is a standard Economy Class seat. You have to remember to bring your own. 15 minutes later I was asked what I wanted to drink. You are wrong, ANA and LH are not competing. Noise cancelling headphones provided are too large to sleep in, and the aircraft is VERY loud. Seat back recline might be limited due to the wall of the lavatory directly behind. Did you literally use a timer to record the service flows, in order to make a German statement of ‘10min/15min/75min/85min later’? Seat back recline might be limited. I basically felt like I was spooning the fuselage when I was sleeping on my side. Seat 27 C is a standard Economy Class seat located in an Exit Row that features additional legroom. Isn’t anyone allowed to tell CEO What’s-His-Face to go try it for himself some time? Looks like a Vietnam Air or Malaysia Airlines product to me, hard or soft. Very uncomfortable seating on A350. Which language do you use on board LH? This is one of 14 Airbus A350-900 airplanes currently in the fleet with 31 more on order. Seat 19 E is a standard Economy Class seat. Lufthansa has a total of 48 business class seats on the A350-900, spread across eight rows in a 2-2-2 configuration. He also tripped over my feet trying to hop out of his seat into the aisle. While I thought the seats were wide enough, I did think that the aisles and the arm rests were a little narrow. The exhaustion from the past couple of days had caught up with me, and I managed to sleep for nearly four hours, until we were about 5.5 hours from Munich. 2017/10/30 for Seat 16D, on Seat 32 G is a standard Economy Class seat. In the centre section, if you are lucky and have a couple sitting next to you, no one will disturb you. But they’re a 5 star airline because sometime in the future their seats will be updated… No doubt already outdated by that time. Due to seat 28A having extra legroom, it also has a box underneath in which to stow the monitor. Airbus … So you say there is no set with matching trousers, only a shirt? Not that their English is bad, but they are extremely afraid of having to use it, in particularly in situations they cannot prepare for in detail (e.g. @John Because yes, we all strive to imagine a business class built to look out for our children. What is business class like on Lufthansa’s self proclaimed flagship aircraft, the A350-900? I dunno, even during Lucky’s LH fanboy days, it was always a given he was in love with their first class, and not much beyond that. As a frequent business traveller (pun intended -> status and occupation) based in Munich, I think some people don’t really understand LH’s market position here. Did 3 legs > 10h on it, will not do it again. Seat back recline might be limited due to the wall of the lavatory directly behind. Economy Class is particularly roomy and comfortable and features the most recent technology. The close proximity to the lavatory area might be bothersome. Lufthansa business class lunch — chocolate. I don’t think it is that bad. Then underneath the far armrest is where the headphones are located, which are inside a compartment and wired so they can’t be removed. Seat 15 E is a standard Premium Economy Class seat. Yes you did have to look someone in the eye while eating on BA but when the privacy divider was closed, and you had a window seat, the old Club World was one of the most private seats in the sky. Your article describes it the other way. Seat 40 D is a standard Economy Class seat. There are 48 seats in business class, 21 more in premium economy and 224 economy class seats. Seat 37 C is a standard Economy Class seat. It is best to expect no help at all other than being offered your seat onboard. Our taxi was quite far, as we were departing from the opposite side of the airport. And I always think of business – and first obviously – as being flying equivalents of silver service. Advantage is that you can use your smartphone even with shorter cables. The feet have enough space when sleeping which i find very important. Advertiser Disclosure: Some links to credit cards and other products on this website will earn an affiliate commission. And yes, even though it is called business class, you do find families traveling BC as well, and for families, this is a decent product. I had reviewed Lufthansa’s business class on the A330-300 and 747-8, so I decided to book the Munich flight, since that was operated by an A350-900. Seat 2 H is a standard Business Class seat that transforms into a fully flat bed. Seat 35 H is a standard Economy Class seat. One cool feature of the A350 is that it has a tail camera, so I watched that during takeoff. I always struggle to get your LH reviews. Not sure what Elite can do. Seat 24 G is a standard Economy Class seat. 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